Courtesy of the Weiss Family Collection
Courtesy of the Weiss Family Collection
In my last post I wrote about Jeanette Weiss who married Emanuel Goldberg. You can read about them here While researching them I made an interesting discovery connecting them back to my Srulowitz/Srulovitz or Strulowitz family.
In 1932, Jean and Manny had a son, Kalman Asrial born January 27th, Chicago, Ill.
For some time now I have been trying to locate my Srulowitz family that had left New York for Chicago. My great grandmother was a woman named Rebecca Srulowitz and while we know her parents names were Samuel Strulowitz and Minnie Cohen that is really all we knew with the exception that Rebecca’s extended family had located in Chicago. In addition she had a sister named Minnie who had a duaghter named Mollie, known as red head Mollie.
I have a number of Strulowitz connected DNA cousins 4 – 8 generations back and nothing to connected our family with these matches, that is until now.
Before I go further let me explain my connection to Jean Weiss. She is the niece of the wife of my 2nd great uncle; Phillip Hyam’s (Hyamovitch). Phillip’s father was Marks Hyamovitch (England branch) brother to my great grandfather Samuel Haimowitz (New York branch) The connection is distant but with the discovery of Kalman and then to his wife but I have connected these two families through marriage and linked them as our Srulowitz family.
Kalman Asriel Goldberg married Arlene Srulowitz on October 24, 1954 in Chicago, Ill. Arlene was born June 5, 1934. That was an interesting discovery for me and I quickly went to work trying to discover who Arlene was.
Arlene was the daughter of Herman Srulovitz b. May 3, 1913, Brooklyn, N.Y. son of Isadore Srulovitz b. 1884 Hungary- d. 1933 Chicago and Esther Altberger b. 1891 Hungary – died 1966 Chicago.
I have been sitting on 3 DNA connections to the family of Isadore and Esther for a few years now. I have been communication with the granddaughter of Arlene in both group emails with the England Hyamovitch family and privately the last view months unaware that we circle back around and connect.
I have a task in front of me to try and discover just how Isadore and Rebecca are connected. I have nothing proven yet. What I am going to try to prove is were
Could Isadore born 1884, father Samuel M. and Rebecca born 1880, father Samuel be brother and sister?
For Wordless Wednesday this week I shared the wedding photo of Jeanette (Jean) Weiss and Emanuel (Manny) Goldberg. Over the past few weeks I have shared a number of photo’s of Jean and today, I’d like to share a little more of her story. (all photos courtesy of the extended Weiss Family)
Known as Jean, she was born the Oct. 28, 1907 in Brooklyn New York to parents Phillip (Pacey) Weiss born 1885, Romania and Sarah Meiselman born 1889, Russia.
Pacey and Sarah had two other children, Rachel born in 1910, Brooklyn, followed by a son Seymour, in 1916, Chicago, Ill.
Rachel and Jeanette Weiss ~
Sadly, Rachel did not survive and passed away March 3, 1913 shortly after the family relocated from Brooklyn, New York to Chicago, Ill. She is buried at Forest Park.
Jean, mother Sarah and Seymour
Information pulled from the 1918 WWI draft registration for Jean’s father Pacey listed their home address of 830 14th St. Chicago and the family was still there in 1920. According to a Weiss family descendant, Jean was a classically trained pianist and a reference to being trained at the Juilliard School of Music was noted on a family members tree. Juilliard was founded in 1905 in New York City. I have not been able to confirm whether this is true and that she actually was trained at Juilliard in New York. There is a Juilliard at the School of Music in Chicago but the earliest date is 1932 that I could find for it being established. Corresponding with a granddaughter she shared she knew that she did not pursue a career in music and played only at home. In an attempt to find out more information, I checked newspaper.com and genealogy bank and found on genealogy bank for any mention of a recital. Instead I did locate this article for Jeans mother Sarah.
Chicago Daily News 6-16-1921
After finding this article, I shared it with the Weiss family descendants. Great grandson Brian Morris shared a message from an Aunt who shared this memory with him.
Remember a story told about how Grandpa W took matters into his own hands. The neighborhood they lived in was mixed with a lot of Italians. Grandpa went to see the Italian “boss” and wanted to know who broke in and robbed them and tied up Grandma. Well they were more time efficient than the cops. Grandpa then introduced himself to them with a baseball bat. Grandparents had a fruit store there and were well known and liked. No robberies after that. In those days nobody touched a woman. He went into a bar where they were drinking pulled them out and talked. Heard the story several times from my Dad. Grandpa was about 5’8”” max
That was quite an experience that Sarah went through. Whether in 1921 or today, how terrifying it must have been. The article certainly does provide some additional information and insight into there lives and I feel confident in speculating that Pacey and Sarah were certainly wealthy enough to provide a music education in New York for their daughter but whether that happened I do not know. $5000 back then had a value equivalent to $64,000. Quite a nice salary for a fruit peddler. I also wonder if son Seymour was at home and witnessed this. At the time he was only 5 years old. He may have started school by then or he could have still been home.
On the April 1930 census the family had relocated to 3148 Douglas Blvd. Pacey listed his occupation as proprietor of a fruit store and Jean (22) was working as a stenographer at a handkerchief company.
In just a few short months, on June 17, Jean married Emanual Edward Goldberg.
Emanuel (Manny) Edward was born on Feb. 15, 1905 in Chicago, Ill. to parents Harry Goldberg and Jeanette (Nettie) Denn.
On January 27, 1932 son Kalman Asrail was born followed a few years later by a daughter in 1938. By 1940 they had moved to 652 W. Buckingham Pl. into this lovely brick apartment building. (photo Google Earth) Manny’s occupation was listed as fur broker – own business.
Jean and Manny about 1954
That really brings me to the end of what I know about Jean and Manny.
Jean passed away on April 10, 1988 at 80 years old and Manny passed away on April 25, 1994 at 89 years old. They are buried at Memorial Park – Skokie, Ill.
May their memory be a blessing
Jeanette Weiss & Emanuel Goldberg ~ 1930
For Wordless Wednesday this week I posted another unmarked photo shared with me from the Weiss Family collection. It is a wonderful photo of children sitting/standing on the running board of a car.
My connection to the Weiss family is through marriage. Rosie was the sister to the wife of my 2x great Uncle, Marks Hyamovitch. This connection has led to some fun family history collaborations and picture sharing.
Here is a better photo of the car the children are sitting on and if anyone can ID the car for us that would be wonderful. As to who is driving and sitting in the back, it is still left to speculation.
Back to the photo above of the children. Marion Levin b. 1922, daughter of William Levin and Rosie Levin nee Weiss is the little girl sitting on the right end. I am dating this photo about 1927. And below is photo of Marion with her mother Rosie. (I have shared this photo before.) I suspect her two older brothers, Samuel b. 1910 and Norman b. 1919 are also in the photo.
For Wordless Wednesday I posted this picture below. It was from a grouping of unidentified family photo’s graciously shared by the Bass and Morris Families. The painstaking task of matching known photo’s with unknown has begun and I would like to venture a guess on this one.
My first thought studying this, was, could these be siblings? An older sister with a younger brother. The young man seems to be of mid teen age.
A photo that was identified was this fabulous family photo of Marks Hyamovitch and his wife Polly (Pauline) Weiss
Comparing the photo of Polly from the family portrait photo above to the younger woman, do you think these two woman could be the the same; could it be a younger Polly Weiss? I think possibly.
Polly was born in 1882 and she had a younger brother named Phillip, aka Pacey born in 1885.
Comparing the known photo of Pacey on his wedding day (1906) with the one of the younger man, do you think these two men the same? I think very likely.
The question is ~ could this be a picture of Polly Hyamovitch nee Weiss (1882) with her brother Phillip Weiss (1885)? I am strongly leaning to yes.
I would love to hear from you on this question
Samuel, Polly, Jack, Phillip, Hyman and Marks Hyamovitch abt 1906
(guess on Phillip and Hyman)
In my last posting I wrote about Phillip (Pacey) Weiss (1885 – 1961) who married Sarah Meiselman (1889 – 1965) November 4, 1909, Brooklyn, N.Y. They both had long lives passing within a few years of each other in Chicago, Ill. They were the parents of three children Jeanette (1907 – 1988) , Rachel (1910 – 1913) and Seymour Louis 1916 – 1998) .
Phillip was the brother to Pauline (Polly) and Rose/Rosie Weiss.
In this posting I am concentrating on Rosie Weiss born December 24, 1890, Romania to Samuel Leib Weiss and Mariam (Mary) Shwartz.
Rosie left Romania and immigrated to New York. I have not been able to find any immigration record for her but according to the NY 1910,1920, and 1930 census, they all report a 1903 immigration year which would make her about 13 years old when she traveled.
Rosie Levin nee Weiss
Rosie met William Levin who was born April 5, 1883, Russia. His parents were Abraham Levin and Anna Cohen. Using familysearch.com, I was able to confirm his parents names along with his death date of June 30, 1948, buried July 1.
On October 30, 1909, Rosie Weiss married William Levin in Brooklyn, New York.
Here is another more casual photo of Rosie and William. I love her little sassy pose with her hand behind her, casually off of her hip.
A google search for Washington Hall, 93 Thatford Ave led me to the Brooklyn Daily Eagle Almanac with a notation under Labor Unions and Organizations and under the sub heading of Textile and Clothing Trades was Washington Hall at the 93 address.
It most certainly had to have been a grand affair, with an evening wedding at 7pm, William in his top hat and tails and Rosie so beautiful in her gorgeous gown with cascading veil off of the fabulous head piece.
But more important to note is Mrs. Mary Weiss, mother of Rosie on the wedding invitation. This certainly indicates her husband Samuel Leib Weiss was deceased and that she was present in New York at the time of her daughters wedding. Family states that Rosie traveled here with her mother. I have not been able to confirm this.
A hint on the invitation was the brides address listed at 46 Lynch St. I did a quick check for the address but unfortunately the building has been torn down. If Mary was truly here perhaps Rosie was living with her mother at this address. I still have not been able to find any record for Mary/Miriam living here, nor have I been able to find where she is buried. Her death date is March 6, 1921 and in my previous post I had shared her gravestone photo. The question as to who is standing by the grave is still in question. It was shared with us by the great granddaughter of Phillip Weiss and Sarah Meiselman. At this time the my thoughts are that this is Rosie by her mothers grave.
Continuing with the William and Rosie, their first home was at 61 Hopkins Street, Brooklyn, NY. The 1910 census has William (26) working as a house painter. He had arrived in 1890 and it says he was naturalized. Rosie was listed as 23, and living with them was lodger, Mamie Portland (30), working as a laundress in a laundry. Rosie’s age seems to be an error as a birth year of 1890 made her 19 when married and 20 in 1910.
On August 25, 1910 William and Rosie welcomed their first son Samuel.
I could not locate the family in the 1915 census but located William’s WWI 1918 draft registration. William’s birth date is recorded as April 5, 1883, Rose is listed as his wife and they were living at 339 Central Ave., Brooklyn. His employer was M. Kamenstein @ 135 Pearl St. Brooklyn. Also noted on this record is that William was naturalized on his fathers papers.
WWI Draft Registration William Levin
World War I Draft Registration Cards, 1917-1918AuthorAncestry.com
A year later in 1919 William and Rosie welcomed their second son Norman on April 20th.
Still working as a house painter, William moved his family to 2860 West Sixth Street, they were renting. Interesting on this census was that Rosie was listed as naturalized . Does this mean it was on her own account since William was on his fathers papers, as seen on the WWI document. I could not locate her naturalization record under Rose or Rosie Weiss or Levin.
I do believe I located the ‘Declaration Of Intention’ papers for William. I am not sure what to make of the fact the WWI record said he was under his fathers papers, when this appears to be his record. Lots of interesting information on this but mistakes too. The date on this 1906. His age says 21, with an 1889 birth year. If that were so, it should be 1885. The birth information conflicts with the WWI record but the fact it says his occupation was painter led me to believe this was his record. (I could be wrong) It says he was born in Minsk and last know residence was Ekateriuoslaw, Russia which today is the Ukraine. You can google this read the history. I love that this record has his signature.
Declaration Of Intention
New York, State and Federal Naturalization Records, 1794-1929 Ancestry.com
In 1922 they welcomed their 3rd and last child, a daughter named Marion/Marian and by 1925 they had moved again. Located on the 1925 census under the spelling of Levine, they were now at 2910 W. 36th St between Surf and Mermaid. William’s occupation was listed as tailor which I am sure was a mistake as the 1930 census had him as a painter again. I am sure this was the correct family as all three children were listed, Samuel, Norman and Marion.
Willam with Marion
The 1930 census showed another move to 2917 W. 20th Street. (In my research I have come across many moves for families turning these early years but for some reason this time I am feeling like they really bounced around quite a bit and I can’t help but wonder why) William (44) was renting the place for $60. Under attended school, it says no and yes to able to read and write. Under language, yiddish and yes to speaking English. Under occupation it said painter but this time “own” Under Veteran it said no, so he must not have served in WWI, only registered. Samuel (20) was still at home and working as a painter with Norman (11) and Marion (7)
From the 1940 census William (56) and Rosie (50) had moved his family once again. The census notes home in 1935 which showed they had moved to the 2868 W. 29th St. address by ’35. Both Samuel (29) and Norman (20) were working as house painters along with their father. Marion (17) was still home.
Marion and Mom Rosie
William and Rosie Levin
If you look very carefully into the car you will see two other people, a child in the middle with a man next to him.
Rosie Levin passed away on February 17, 1946 at the age of 55.
William made one more move that I confirmed with the death information from familysearch.com. It lists his address at the time of death as 2824 W. 30th St. Brooklyn.
William passed away on June 30, 1948. Both are buried at Mount Hebron Cemetery in Queens, New York. A check of the grave sites show that they are buried next each other. (R 81-5-6-17 and W 81-5-6-20) The photo is from FindAGrave.
* A check for Rosie’s mother Mariam Weiss yield no record for her at Mount Hebron with her daughter and son-in-law.
Thank you to the Brian Morris and Bass families for so graciously sharing their amazing family photos.