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The Family of Samuel Leib Weiss and Mariam (Mary) Shwartz

Pauline (Polly) Hyamovitch nee Weiss was the wife of my 2x great Uncle, Marks Hyamovitch, brother to my great grandfather Samuel Haimowitz.

Her parents were Samuel (Shmuel) Leib Weiss and Mary (Miriam) Shwartz 

I have written quite a bit about Polly and Marks family in the last year or so. I have been part of a continuing email share between cousin’s both in the US and England,  corresponding on this Weiss family branch. This will be one of my first attempts at documenting their story.

Believed to be a photo of Samuel (Shmuel) Leib Weiss and Mary (Mariam) Shwartz (Shwarz or Sch) they were the parents of Polly, Phillip, and Rose/Rosie

WeissPhoto copy   Photo Curtesy of Brian Morris & Family

A recent photo confirmed and gave us the exact date of death for Mariam who passed 6 March 1921 and helped confirm her year of birth of 1853. Her place of death has still not been determined. It is believed she died in Brooklyn, New York where she was living by her daughter. I have not been able to find any census records for her, nor a record for her death using both Ancestry and  Familysearch as well as checking Newspapers.com and Genealogybank. An exhaustive search of all cemeteries has not been done.

MarianWeissGravestone copy

Believed to be daughter Rose standing by her mother’s grave; according to one family member named Marie, she has shared that Mariam went to America with her daughter Rose. Also note spelling of Mariam on the gravestone which I feel is her correct spelling as opposed to Miriam and perhaps a clue to the reason she went by Mary. 

Samuel and Mary’s children were Polly Weiss b. 1882, Romania, Philip Weiss b. 18 Apr. 1885, Romania, and Rose b. 24 Dec., 1890, Romania. (Another researcher of this family has included a son named Michael with no supporting evidence but I wanted to include his name for this posting)

Polly and her husband Marks Hyamovitch immigrated from Romania to England in 1900 however siblings Phillip and Rose both immigrated to the United States. It is their stories I would like to concentrate on.

Philip Weiss also known as Pacey, immigrated to New York arriving on Sept. 30, 1902 aboard the La Gascogne. He was 18 years old and traveling under his Hebrew name of I/Edel Pesech/esach Weiss.

On the passenger record found on Ancestry, I noticed that below Idel (Philip) was ‘Schwarz, Beile’, the maiden name of his mother Mary (we are spelling Shwartz) Could they be traveling together and be related? In the cut outs from the passenger list below, the 2nd photo shows who they were traveling too. Philip to his Uncle M. Schwarz, I think that is 610 Delancy St. and Beile is going to her brother (can’t read) c/o Moish (?) Moses (?) Schwarz 58 Allen St. The question here is who is this Beile? a cousin?  She would not be Philips sister Rose because Rose was 5 years younger than him.

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Is Phillip traveling to the brother of his mother Mary (Mariam) adding another clue into the Shwartz family.

Philip married a few years after arriving to Sarah Meiselman (1889) daughter of Kalman Meiselman and Celia Eisenblat. They were married on November 4, 1906. Sarah was 17 and Philip 21. (Wedding and subsequent photo’s shared with permission by the original posters on Ancestry)

PhillipWeissWedding copy

Philip Weiss_Sarah Meiselman copy

Their first child was a daughter, Jeanette (Jean) b. 29 Oct. 1907, N.Y.

Jeanette Weiss copy

followed by Rachel on May 31, 1910, Brooklyn, N.Y.. Sadly Rachel passed away 3 short years later on Mar 3, 1913 in Chicago, Ill.

Death Certificate Rachel Weiss

Rachel Weiss death certificate.png

This document gives a great clue to as when the family left Brooklyn, N.Y. and relocated to Chicago, Ill. It indicates Rachel had only been a resident for 6 months which would have the family moving about Oct. 1912.

As the family settled into their new lives in Chicago, son Seymour Louis was born Apr. 18, 1916.

Phillip registered for the WWI draft on September 12, 1918. His address is listed as 830 W. 14th St. He listed his occupation as peddler – for self.

PhilipWeissWWIAncestry.com World War I Draft Registration Cards, 1917-1918

By 1920 census they were still living at the 830 W. 14th St. address and Philip noted his occupation now as ‘fruit’ peddler. I could not find any records to confirm whether he actually served in the military.

In 1921 his Mother Mary passed leaving me to wonder if, in fact she was living in Brooklyn. Would Phillip have returned to N.Y. to attend the funeral or a year later for the unveiling of her headstone? Would he have been able to afford this on a fruit peddlers salary?

Written as “Edel Paskel (Phillip Weiss)” Phillip naturalized on June 18, 1925

PhillipWeissNat'lIndex Ancestry.com U.S. Naturalization Record Indexes, 1791-1992 (Indexed in World Archives Project)

 

1930 saw a change of address with the family living now at 3148 Douglas Blvd, Chicago. Phillip (48) listed his occupation as proprietor fruit store. It was nice to see that he had moved from peddler to actually having a fruit store. Daughter Jeanette (22) was now working as a stenographer in a handkerchief company. Sarah (42) was home along with  Seymour (14). But also living at the 3148 Douglas address was Sedelle Weiss (25) as head, working as a typist in a factory, listed as mother to head was a Rose Weiss (45) widow, and living with them was boarder Meyer Eckskan (30) proprietor dry good store. (this opens another rabbit hole which I am not ready to go down)

On June 17, 1930 Jeanette married Emanuel (Manny) Goldberg in Chicago. They would go on to have 2 children.

Jean Weiss copy

  • Jeanette looks like a glamorous film store in the photo to me

March 24, 1937 Seymour married Celia Toby Horow/vitz also in Chicago and they too had two children.

By 1940 both of Phillip and Sarah’s children had married and they we’re now living on their own at 3426 Douglas. Both of them were working, Philip as a salesman and Sarah as a saleslady. It was impossible to decipher what industry from the census, but by then they were grandparents to 2 children born to Jeanette and Manny.

WWII Draft registration Phillip Weiss April 27, 1942

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Phillip Weiss WWII-2Ancestry.com U.S. World War II Draft Registration Cards, 1942

The WWII draft registration reveals a few things. We have his signature along with how he is spelling his first name, with 2 L’s. He was quite short at 5’2″ and stocky at 192lbs and he is in business, his own, selling handkerchiefs now. If that seems familiar, back in 1930, his daughter Jeanette was working as a stenographer in a handkerchief company.

Phillip passed away on August 3, 1961 and Sarah followed on December 27, 1965.

Death Certificate Phillip Weiss

Phillip Weiss death certificate

Both Phillip and Sarah are buried at the Jewish Roman Section of the Waldheim Cemetery Forest Park, Ill. (I did check Waldheim for mother Mariam but she was not there)

Phillip Weiss headstone

 

Sarah Weiss headstone

In the next posting I will share what I know about Phillip’s sister Rose Levin nee Weiss.

Before I close I would like to add one more record for Mariam Weiss. A possible immigration record for her. First I located on Ancestry a passenger list for detained passengers traveling on the SS Batavia arriving on November 18, 1905. Spelled Mariem Weiss, 43 years of age, reason for detention simply states Dr. Memo with no details. Not able to find anything else for her I went over to Ellis Island to search the records there.

There I found, SS Batavia arriving the same date, transcribed as Marpin for Mariam Weiss age 50 traveling to her husband Libe Weiss in Chicago, Ill. and next to her name is written Dr. Memo: Senility. traveling with her was a male, 9 years, Yankel possibly Shermann (?) He is traveling to his Uncle but what is really interesting is that also noted is the name Malke Schwarz, c/o above, which would be Libe Weiss

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At this point I am not quite sure what to make of this. Is this the right family? The year was 1905, and we know Phillip did not move to Chicago until 1913. But had there been this Chicago connection prior which brought him there? I do not have immigration records for daughter Rose, who Mariam was supposedly traveling to or with. The 1910 census says that daughter Rose arrived in 1903. This brings up a lot of possibilities. The possibility of the family being in Chicago and then going back to New York. The possibility that Samuel Lieb died in Chicago, and then widowed Mariam went to N.Y. where daughter Rose was which would explain only Mariam’s name on the Rose’s wedding invitation (which I will share/explore in the next post) There is quite a lot to still be discovered, still a lot of questions and lots of unknowns.

 

 

 

 

Author:

An adoptee who found both her maternal and paternal side 17 years ago, I began digging into my new found families past. The journey has been amazing connecting and reconnecting lost and found generations.

11 thoughts on “The Family of Samuel Leib Weiss and Mariam (Mary) Shwartz

  1. Great research on my maternal great Grandmother Polly nee Weiss’s family in the states. Thank you Sharon. Karen xx

    1. Thank you Karen 🙂 I sure hope this helps with your research of the family too. Questions to look at? Answers? Its all a great collaboration. Hugs

  2. Wonderful research. You mentioned that you haven’t found Mariam’s cemetery or death records, but you do have her gravestone photo. I wonder if there’s a way to narrow your search for at least the cemetery through the photo.

    As always, you have the most amazing photographs! Good luck with answering the remaining questions. I think I remember learning that Mary is a secularized form of Miriam, but don’t quote me on that! (After Jesus’ mother Mary was Jewish so alhough we now think of Mary as a Christian name, it was once really a Jewish name.)

    1. Thank you Amy ~ On the post there is the picture of the gravestone with who we believe is her daughter Rose standing next it. I have been checking cemeteries in the greater New York area that have interment online searches but have found nothing yet. It’s funny, one of my daughters is Marion after her father and yes, we call her Mary 🙂

  3. What wonderful photographs, and what wonderful documentation tracing this family! Congratulations on getting it lined out so logically.

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