Courtesy of the Weiss Family Collection
Courtesy of the Weiss Family Collection
In my last post I wrote about Jeanette Weiss who married Emanuel Goldberg. You can read about them here While researching them I made an interesting discovery connecting them back to my Srulowitz/Srulovitz or Strulowitz family.
In 1932, Jean and Manny had a son, Kalman Asrial born January 27th, Chicago, Ill.
For some time now I have been trying to locate my Srulowitz family that had left New York for Chicago. My great grandmother was a woman named Rebecca Srulowitz and while we know her parents names were Samuel Strulowitz and Minnie Cohen that is really all we knew with the exception that Rebecca’s extended family had located in Chicago. In addition she had a sister named Minnie who had a duaghter named Mollie, known as red head Mollie.
I have a number of Strulowitz connected DNA cousins 4 – 8 generations back and nothing to connected our family with these matches, that is until now.
Before I go further let me explain my connection to Jean Weiss. She is the niece of the wife of my 2nd great uncle; Phillip Hyam’s (Hyamovitch). Phillip’s father was Marks Hyamovitch (England branch) brother to my great grandfather Samuel Haimowitz (New York branch) The connection is distant but with the discovery of Kalman and then to his wife but I have connected these two families through marriage and linked them as our Srulowitz family.
Kalman Asriel Goldberg married Arlene Srulowitz on October 24, 1954 in Chicago, Ill. Arlene was born June 5, 1934. That was an interesting discovery for me and I quickly went to work trying to discover who Arlene was.
Arlene was the daughter of Herman Srulovitz b. May 3, 1913, Brooklyn, N.Y. son of Isadore Srulovitz b. 1884 Hungary- d. 1933 Chicago and Esther Altberger b. 1891 Hungary – died 1966 Chicago.
I have been sitting on 3 DNA connections to the family of Isadore and Esther for a few years now. I have been communication with the granddaughter of Arlene in both group emails with the England Hyamovitch family and privately the last view months unaware that we circle back around and connect.
I have a task in front of me to try and discover just how Isadore and Rebecca are connected. I have nothing proven yet. What I am going to try to prove is were
Could Isadore born 1884, father Samuel M. and Rebecca born 1880, father Samuel be brother and sister?
For Wordless Wednesday I posted this picture below. It was from a grouping of unidentified family photo’s graciously shared by the Bass and Morris Families. The painstaking task of matching known photo’s with unknown has begun and I would like to venture a guess on this one.
My first thought studying this, was, could these be siblings? An older sister with a younger brother. The young man seems to be of mid teen age.
A photo that was identified was this fabulous family photo of Marks Hyamovitch and his wife Polly (Pauline) Weiss
Comparing the photo of Polly from the family portrait photo above to the younger woman, do you think these two woman could be the the same; could it be a younger Polly Weiss? I think possibly.
Polly was born in 1882 and she had a younger brother named Phillip, aka Pacey born in 1885.
Comparing the known photo of Pacey on his wedding day (1906) with the one of the younger man, do you think these two men the same? I think very likely.
The question is ~ could this be a picture of Polly Hyamovitch nee Weiss (1882) with her brother Phillip Weiss (1885)? I am strongly leaning to yes.
I would love to hear from you on this question
Samuel, Polly, Jack, Phillip, Hyman and Marks Hyamovitch abt 1906
(guess on Phillip and Hyman)
Pauline (Polly) Hyamovitch nee Weiss was the wife of my 2x great Uncle, Marks Hyamovitch, brother to my great grandfather Samuel Haimowitz.
Her parents were Samuel (Shmuel) Leib Weiss and Mary (Miriam) Shwartz
I have written quite a bit about Polly and Marks family in the last year or so. I have been part of a continuing email share between cousin’s both in the US and England, corresponding on this Weiss family branch. This will be one of my first attempts at documenting their story.
Believed to be a photo of Samuel (Shmuel) Leib Weiss and Mary (Mariam) Shwartz (Shwarz or Sch) they were the parents of Polly, Phillip, and Rose/Rosie
Photo Curtesy of Brian Morris & Family
A recent photo confirmed and gave us the exact date of death for Mariam who passed 6 March 1921 and helped confirm her year of birth of 1853. Her place of death has still not been determined. It is believed she died in Brooklyn, New York where she was living by her daughter. I have not been able to find any census records for her, nor a record for her death using both Ancestry and Familysearch as well as checking Newspapers.com and Genealogybank. An exhaustive search of all cemeteries has not been done.
Believed to be daughter Rose standing by her mother’s grave; according to one family member named Marie, she has shared that Mariam went to America with her daughter Rose. Also note spelling of Mariam on the gravestone which I feel is her correct spelling as opposed to Miriam and perhaps a clue to the reason she went by Mary.
Samuel and Mary’s children were Polly Weiss b. 1882, Romania, Philip Weiss b. 18 Apr. 1885, Romania, and Rose b. 24 Dec., 1890, Romania. (Another researcher of this family has included a son named Michael with no supporting evidence but I wanted to include his name for this posting)
Polly and her husband Marks Hyamovitch immigrated from Romania to England in 1900 however siblings Phillip and Rose both immigrated to the United States. It is their stories I would like to concentrate on.
Philip Weiss also known as Pacey, immigrated to New York arriving on Sept. 30, 1902 aboard the La Gascogne. He was 18 years old and traveling under his Hebrew name of I/Edel Pesech/esach Weiss.
On the passenger record found on Ancestry, I noticed that below Idel (Philip) was ‘Schwarz, Beile’, the maiden name of his mother Mary (we are spelling Shwartz) Could they be traveling together and be related? In the cut outs from the passenger list below, the 2nd photo shows who they were traveling too. Philip to his Uncle M. Schwarz, I think that is 610 Delancy St. and Beile is going to her brother (can’t read) c/o Moish (?) Moses (?) Schwarz 58 Allen St. The question here is who is this Beile? a cousin? She would not be Philips sister Rose because Rose was 5 years younger than him.
Is Phillip traveling to the brother of his mother Mary (Mariam) adding another clue into the Shwartz family.
Philip married a few years after arriving to Sarah Meiselman (1889) daughter of Kalman Meiselman and Celia Eisenblat. They were married on November 4, 1906. Sarah was 17 and Philip 21. (Wedding and subsequent photo’s shared with permission by the original posters on Ancestry)
Their first child was a daughter, Jeanette (Jean) b. 29 Oct. 1907, N.Y.
followed by Rachel on May 31, 1910, Brooklyn, N.Y.. Sadly Rachel passed away 3 short years later on Mar 3, 1913 in Chicago, Ill.
Death Certificate Rachel Weiss
This document gives a great clue to as when the family left Brooklyn, N.Y. and relocated to Chicago, Ill. It indicates Rachel had only been a resident for 6 months which would have the family moving about Oct. 1912.
As the family settled into their new lives in Chicago, son Seymour Louis was born Apr. 18, 1916.
Phillip registered for the WWI draft on September 12, 1918. His address is listed as 830 W. 14th St. He listed his occupation as peddler – for self.
Ancestry.com World War I Draft Registration Cards, 1917-1918
By 1920 census they were still living at the 830 W. 14th St. address and Philip noted his occupation now as ‘fruit’ peddler. I could not find any records to confirm whether he actually served in the military.
In 1921 his Mother Mary passed leaving me to wonder if, in fact she was living in Brooklyn. Would Phillip have returned to N.Y. to attend the funeral or a year later for the unveiling of her headstone? Would he have been able to afford this on a fruit peddlers salary?
Written as “Edel Paskel (Phillip Weiss)” Phillip naturalized on June 18, 1925
Ancestry.com U.S. Naturalization Record Indexes, 1791-1992 (Indexed in World Archives Project)
1930 saw a change of address with the family living now at 3148 Douglas Blvd, Chicago. Phillip (48) listed his occupation as proprietor fruit store. It was nice to see that he had moved from peddler to actually having a fruit store. Daughter Jeanette (22) was now working as a stenographer in a handkerchief company. Sarah (42) was home along with Seymour (14). But also living at the 3148 Douglas address was Sedelle Weiss (25) as head, working as a typist in a factory, listed as mother to head was a Rose Weiss (45) widow, and living with them was boarder Meyer Eckskan (30) proprietor dry good store. (this opens another rabbit hole which I am not ready to go down)
On June 17, 1930 Jeanette married Emanuel (Manny) Goldberg in Chicago. They would go on to have 2 children.
March 24, 1937 Seymour married Celia Toby Horow/vitz also in Chicago and they too had two children.
By 1940 both of Phillip and Sarah’s children had married and they we’re now living on their own at 3426 Douglas. Both of them were working, Philip as a salesman and Sarah as a saleslady. It was impossible to decipher what industry from the census, but by then they were grandparents to 2 children born to Jeanette and Manny.
WWII Draft registration Phillip Weiss April 27, 1942
Ancestry.com U.S. World War II Draft Registration Cards, 1942
The WWII draft registration reveals a few things. We have his signature along with how he is spelling his first name, with 2 L’s. He was quite short at 5’2″ and stocky at 192lbs and he is in business, his own, selling handkerchiefs now. If that seems familiar, back in 1930, his daughter Jeanette was working as a stenographer in a handkerchief company.
Phillip passed away on August 3, 1961 and Sarah followed on December 27, 1965.
Death Certificate Phillip Weiss
Both Phillip and Sarah are buried at the Jewish Roman Section of the Waldheim Cemetery Forest Park, Ill. (I did check Waldheim for mother Mariam but she was not there)
In the next posting I will share what I know about Phillip’s sister Rose Levin nee Weiss.
Before I close I would like to add one more record for Mariam Weiss. A possible immigration record for her. First I located on Ancestry a passenger list for detained passengers traveling on the SS Batavia arriving on November 18, 1905. Spelled Mariem Weiss, 43 years of age, reason for detention simply states Dr. Memo with no details. Not able to find anything else for her I went over to Ellis Island to search the records there.
There I found, SS Batavia arriving the same date, transcribed as Marpin for Mariam Weiss age 50 traveling to her husband Libe Weiss in Chicago, Ill. and next to her name is written Dr. Memo: Senility. traveling with her was a male, 9 years, Yankel possibly Shermann (?) He is traveling to his Uncle but what is really interesting is that also noted is the name Malke Schwarz, c/o above, which would be Libe Weiss
At this point I am not quite sure what to make of this. Is this the right family? The year was 1905, and we know Phillip did not move to Chicago until 1913. But had there been this Chicago connection prior which brought him there? I do not have immigration records for daughter Rose, who Mariam was supposedly traveling to or with. The 1910 census says that daughter Rose arrived in 1903. This brings up a lot of possibilities. The possibility of the family being in Chicago and then going back to New York. The possibility that Samuel Lieb died in Chicago, and then widowed Mariam went to N.Y. where daughter Rose was which would explain only Mariam’s name on the Rose’s wedding invitation (which I will share/explore in the next post) There is quite a lot to still be discovered, still a lot of questions and lots of unknowns.
Rosie Weiss & William Levin ~ Courtesy Brian Morris Family
Rochelle Haimowitz & Glbert Steinman ~ 1966