Posted in Ancestry, England, Genealogy, Haimowitz, Hyamovitch, Iasi, Jewish History, London, Weiss

Weiss Family Photo Compare

For Wordless Wednesday I posted this picture below. It was from a grouping of unidentified family photo’s graciously shared by the Bass and Morris Families. The painstaking task of matching known photo’s with unknown has begun and I would like to venture a guess on this one.

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My first thought studying this, was, could these be siblings? An older sister with a younger brother. The young man seems to be of mid teen age.

A photo that was identified was this fabulous family photo of Marks Hyamovitch and his wife Polly (Pauline) Weiss

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Comparing the photo of Polly from the family portrait photo above to the younger woman, do you think these two woman could be the the same; could it be a younger Polly Weiss? I think possibly.

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Polly was born in 1882 and she had a younger brother named Phillip, aka Pacey born in 1885.

Comparing the known photo of Pacey on his wedding day (1906) with the one of the younger man, do you think these two men the same? I think very likely.

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The question is ~ could this be a picture of Polly Hyamovitch nee Weiss (1882) with her brother Phillip Weiss (1885)? I am strongly leaning to yes.

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I would love to hear from you on this question

Posted in Ancestry, Bride, Brooklyn, Genealogy, Groom, Iasi, Jewish History, New York, Romania, Wedding, Weiss

Rosie Weiss Marries William Levin 1909

In my last posting I wrote about Phillip (Pacey) Weiss (1885 – 1961) who married Sarah Meiselman (1889 – 1965) November 4, 1909, Brooklyn, N.Y. They both had long lives passing within a few years of each other in Chicago, Ill. They were the parents of three children Jeanette (1907 – 1988) , Rachel (1910 – 1913) and Seymour Louis 1916 – 1998) .

Phillip was the brother to Pauline (Polly) and Rose/Rosie Weiss.

In this posting I am concentrating on Rosie Weiss born December 24, 1890, Romania to Samuel Leib Weiss and Mariam (Mary) Shwartz. 

Rosie left Romania and immigrated to New York. I have not been able to find any immigration record for her but according to the NY 1910,1920, and 1930 census, they all report a 1903 immigration year which would make her about 13 years old when she traveled.

Rosie Levin nee Weiss 

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Rosie met William Levin who was born April 5, 1883, Russia. His parents were Abraham Levin and Anna Cohen. Using familysearch.com, I was able to confirm  his parents names along with his death date of June 30, 1948, buried July 1.

 On October 30, 1909, Rosie Weiss married William Levin in Brooklyn, New York.

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Here is another more casual photo of Rosie and William. I love her little sassy pose with her hand behind her, casually off of her hip.

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A google search for Washington Hall, 93 Thatford Ave led me to the Brooklyn Daily Eagle Almanac with a notation under Labor Unions and Organizations and under the sub heading of Textile and Clothing Trades was Washington Hall at the 93 address.

It most certainly had to have been a grand affair, with an evening wedding at 7pm, William in his top hat and tails and Rosie so beautiful in her gorgeous gown with cascading veil off of the fabulous head piece.

But more important to note is Mrs. Mary Weiss, mother of Rosie on the wedding invitation. This certainly indicates her husband Samuel Leib Weiss was deceased and that she was present in New York at the time of her daughters wedding. Family states that Rosie traveled here with her mother. I have not been able to confirm this.

A hint on the invitation was the brides address listed at 46 Lynch St. I did a quick check for the address but unfortunately the building has been torn down. If Mary was truly here perhaps Rosie was living with her mother at this address. I still have not been able to find any record for Mary/Miriam living here, nor have I been able to find where she is buried. Her death date is March 6, 1921 and in my previous post I had shared her  gravestone photo. The question as to who is standing by the grave is still in question. It was shared with us by the great granddaughter of Phillip Weiss and Sarah Meiselman. At this time the my thoughts are that this is Rosie by her mothers grave.

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Continuing with the William and Rosie, their first home was at 61 Hopkins Street, Brooklyn, NY. The 1910 census has William (26) working as a house painter. He had arrived in 1890 and it says he was naturalized. Rosie was listed as 23, and living with them was lodger, Mamie Portland (30), working as a laundress in a laundry. Rosie’s age seems to be an error as a birth year of 1890 made her 19 when married and 20 in 1910.

On August 25, 1910 William and Rosie welcomed their first son Samuel.

I could not locate the family in the 1915 census but located William’s WWI 1918 draft registration.  William’s birth date is recorded as April 5, 1883, Rose is listed as his wife and they were living at 339 Central Ave., Brooklyn. His employer was M. Kamenstein @ 135 Pearl St. Brooklyn. Also noted on this record is that William was naturalized on his fathers papers.

WWI Draft Registration William Levin 

World War I Draft Registration Cards, 1917-1918AuthorAncestry.com

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A year  later in 1919 William and Rosie welcomed their second son Norman on April 20th.

Still working as a house painter, William moved his family to 2860 West Sixth Street, they were renting. Interesting on this census was that Rosie was listed as naturalized . Does this mean it was on her own account since William was on his fathers papers, as seen on the WWI document. I could not locate her naturalization record under Rose or Rosie Weiss or Levin.

I do believe I located the ‘Declaration Of Intention’ papers for William. I am not sure what to make of the fact the WWI record said he was under his fathers papers, when this appears to be his record. Lots of interesting information on this but mistakes too. The date on this 1906. His age says 21, with an 1889 birth year. If that were so, it should be 1885. The birth information conflicts with the WWI record but the fact it says his occupation was painter led me to believe this was his record. (I could be wrong) It says he was born in Minsk and last know residence was Ekateriuoslaw, Russia which today is the Ukraine. You can google this read the history. I love that this record has his signature.

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New York, State and Federal Naturalization Records, 1794-1929 Ancestry.com

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In 1922 they welcomed their 3rd and last child, a daughter named Marion/Marian and by 1925 they had moved again. Located on the 1925 census under the spelling of Levine, they were now at 2910 W. 36th St between Surf and Mermaid. William’s occupation was listed as tailor which I am sure was a mistake as the 1930 census had him as a painter again. I am sure this was the correct family as all three children were listed, Samuel, Norman and Marion.

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The 1930 census showed another move to 2917 W. 20th Street. (In my research I have come across many moves for families turning these early years but for some reason this time I am feeling like they really bounced around quite a bit and I can’t help but wonder why) William (44) was renting the place for $60. Under attended school, it says no and yes to able to read and write. Under language, yiddish and yes to speaking English. Under occupation it said painter but this time “own” Under Veteran it said no, so he must not have served in WWI, only registered. Samuel (20) was still at home and working as a painter with Norman (11) and Marion (7)

From the 1940 census William (56) and Rosie (50) had moved his family once again.  The census notes home in 1935 which showed they had moved to the 2868 W. 29th St. address by ’35. Both Samuel (29) and Norman (20)  were working as house painters along with their father. Marion (17) was still home.

Marion and Mom Rosie

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William and Rosie Levin 

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If you look very carefully into the car you will see two other people, a child in the middle with a man next to him.

Rosie Levin passed away on February 17, 1946 at the age of 55.

William made one more move that I confirmed with the death information from familysearch.com. It lists his address at the time of death as 2824 W. 30th St. Brooklyn.

William passed away on June 30, 1948. Both are buried at Mount Hebron Cemetery in Queens, New York. A check of the grave sites show that they are buried next each other. (R 81-5-6-17 and W 81-5-6-20) The photo is from FindAGrave.

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* A check for Rosie’s mother Mariam Weiss yield no record for her at Mount Hebron with her daughter and son-in-law.

Thank you to the Brian Morris and Bass families for so graciously sharing their amazing family photos.

 

 

Posted in Ancestry, Census, Genealogy, Haimowitz, Hyamovitch, Iasi, Jewish History, London

Marks Hyamovitch Revisited & Tracked

Marks Hyamovitch, my 2nd great Uncle, was born May 1880, in Iasi, Romania, and immigrated to London, England in 1900, at the age of 20 with his wife Polly (Weiss). Using all the records I could find for them, I wanted to outline a basic time line of where they lived during their life.

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The census took place every 10 years. The first attempt at a census was in 1801 with very few records that still exist. I started with the 1901 census and was unable to find any listing for Marks and Polly, trying numerous combinations of the spelling for the last name.

The first record available was the 1911 census. Marks, 30 and Polly 29, was living at 14 Denmark Street. The civil parish and registration district was St George in the East, London England. (I am totally unfamiliar with England and the way the city is laid out) Living with them was son Samuel (8), Hyman (7), Phillip (4), Jack (3) and 2 boarders, John  with last name left blank ?, (33), coffee roaster and Jane Schwartz (20) ladies work and in (Feller Hand)

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Using google maps, as best as I can tell this red building  is the one listed as 14 Denmark St., where they were living in 1911.

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1921 census was just a place of work and industry listing and if a marriage was dissolved for divorce.

1921 ~ Limehouse District (record for death of daughter Edith)

England & Wales, Civil Registration Death Index, 1916-2007

Name Eda Hyamovitch Death Age 0 Birth Date abt 1921 Registration Date Oct 1921 Registration QuarterOct-Nov-DecRegistration district Limehouse Inferred County LondonVolume1cPage347Household Members

1930 ~ 22A Finch St, Bishopsgate, London 

London, England, City Directories, 1736-1943

Name M. Hyamovitch Residence Date 1930 Street Address 22A, Finch St ElT N Bishopsgate  6376 Residence Place London, England Occupation Who. Cabnt. Mkr Household Members

The 1931 census for England and Wales was destroyed in a fire in 1942.

1934 ~ Medway Building (East Side) Stanfield Rd ~ Wood Bedstead mkr (this appears to be a business address for him)

UK, City and County Directories, 1766 – 1946

1938 ~ 34 A Med Way Rd (I am not sure if this is home or a business address)

UK, City and County Directories, 1766 – 1946

Name Marks Hyamovitch Publication Year 1938 Address 34 A Med way rd’ Bow E3 Residence Place London, England

1939 ~ 60 Poplar, London, England  

1939 England and Wales Register

Living with them was their son Samuel (36) also working as a cabinet maker like his father. Marks says ‘heavy’ but I could not read the word written for Samuel. The last name was crossed off and Hyam’s was written, the name most family members were using by now.

 

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Using google maps I tried to get an idea of the areas in London – almost in the middle of the map is the area known as Poplar and over to the left Limehouse

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In this 2nd view, almost dead center right, with the hand marker is Poplar, following to the left, before WhiteChapel area is Limehouse, then over to Marylebone on the left is also an area they lived as you will read below.

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There was no 1941 census due to WWII

1945 ~ Alien Orders, Certificate of Registration – Passport 

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From Polly’s record you can see the Tottenham St address, which is crossed off on Marks above; with the postal address of Flat 5 2/25 Nassau St.

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Here we are (below) at 24/25 Nassau St. in the Fitzrovia area which is just to the right of Marylebone. From what I can tell they always remained in the same ‘parallel’ moving to the right and left on the maps always north of the River Thames

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1954 ~ 4 Even Nos St Marylebone, Westminster 
London, England, Electoral Registers, 1832-1965

Name Marks Hyamovitch Electoral Date 1954 Street Address 4 Even Nos Ward or Division/Constituency St Marylebone County or BoroughWestminster, England

1956 ~ 5 Hat, St Marylebone, Westminster

London, England, Electoral Registers, 1832-1965

Name Marks Hyamovitch Electoral Date 1956 Street Address 5 Hat Ward or Division/Constituency St MaryleboneCounty or Borough Westminster, England

1957 ~ 5 Florence St. Marylebone, Westminster

London, England, Electoral Registers, 1832-1965

Marks Hyamovitch Electoral Date 1957 Street Address 5 Florence Ward or Division/Constituency St Marylebone County or Borough Westminster, England

I found both of these homes listed as 5 Florence St. I believe it is the second picture with black door but not knowing the areas I can not be sure. Maybe an England cousin could chime in and help me out.

 

1958 ~ 5 Nassau Street, St Marylebone, Westminster

London, England, Electoral Registers, 1832-1965
Name Marks Hyamovitch Electoral Date 1958 Street Address 5 Nassau Street
Ward or Division/Constituency St Marylebone County or Borough Westminster, England

1962 ~ Wandsworth

England & Wales, Civil Registration Death Index, 1916-2007

Marks Hyamovitch Death Age 81 Birth Date abt 1881 Registration Date Oct 1962 Registration Quarter Oct-Nov-Dec Registration district Wandsworth Inferred County London

The death certificate for Marks lists the 24/25 Nassau Rd address

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Posted in Ancestry, Genealogy, Haimowitz, Hyamovitch, Iasi, London, New York, Romania

Our Missing Unknown Haimowitz Sister

I know one day I will be posting “I found her” but not today. My search continues for the missing sister of my great grandfather Samuel Haimowitz and his brother Marks Hyamovitch – (our London Branch)

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Unknown sister, Samuel and Freda (daughter of Marks) Bronx (abt. 1950)

This mystery, ‘The mystery of the unknown Haimowitz Sister’ haunts my dreams and wakes me at all hours of the night with search idea’s, whispers of what I may have missed and what I should recheck.

Todays hunt led me to a woman named Ethel Rosenthal. Using familysearch.com, I put into a general search the last name of Haimowitz, an estimate for a birth date based on her brothers ages, along with the known parents last names. Using both mother (Greenblatt) and father (Haimowitz) yielded nothing, a repeat search with simply the father’s last name Haimowitz, about 200 matches came up. From there I began looking for a woman, with a father last name of Haimowitz- first name Hyman.

The idea is; on familysearch, they have a very easy way to view family before looking at the record. In other words I am always looking for a woman who’s records list a father’s name of Hyman Haimowitz and a mother Ida or Edith Greenblatt, any combination or creative spelling of the names. Records are always being added and changes made so I revisit often.

On page 3, I spotted Ethel Rosenthal. Her father was listed as Hiam Hamowitz, mother unknown. Ethel had passed in 1949 at 64, which gave me a birth year of 1885 . This was in my search parameters of 1880 – 1890. Her death was located in Cincinnati, Ohio and while I was looking for a NY death, nothing was out of the question. Checking the record there was a death certificate I was able to view.

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Could this be our missing sister? I was hopeful, I always am.

Back to ancestry.com I checked the census records and found her married to a Morris Rosenthal with a family of children ages 14 – 0 in the 1920c along with a hint that led me to a marriage certificate for a daughter, Mollie married – Nathan Stein; notice the informant on the death certificate. Another hint led me to an obituary listing in newspapers.com 

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The anticipation of learning if this was our missing sister was answered, it was not or was it still in question?  There was no mention of Samuel or Marks. Of course the next question could be did ‘they’ have 3 more unknown siblings in this family? A brother Joseph, sister Sara and a Mrs. Ben Richman. Were Samuel and Marks unknown to this branch? A little too far out there to look into. I am feeling confident this is not the sister.

There have been many more hopeful searches in the quest to find our missing sister. Each one has been one of elimination so far which only brings me closer to her.

The hunt continues, hope is alive, the possibilities are endless.